Language Access Work Group - Meeting 6 of 6
October 3, 2023
AGENDA
Welcome and agenda review |
Anita Maguire |
---|---|
Call attention to community agreements |
Anita Maguire |
Share preferred options and reasoning for preferences |
Participants |
Review content for the final report and next steps |
Malia Wallace-Mello |
Conclusion |
Anita Maguire |
RESOURCES
Meeting 6 Participants
Tara Bostock | Carrie Huie-Pascua | Jennifer Price |
---|---|---|
Milena Calderari-Waldron | Jarrod Irvin | Joana Ramos |
Vicky Chan | Christina Labra | Cindy Roat |
Faye Chien | Trish Lamb | Elsie Rodriguez Pas |
Helen Eby | Eliana Lobo | Zenaida Rojas |
Rep. Carolyn Eslick | Ruiqin Miao, PhD | María Sigüenza |
Rep. Darya Farivar | Leroy Mould | Yvonne Simpson |
Zugey García | Natalya Mytareva | Elena Vasiliev |
Luisa Gracia | Gustavo Negrete | Yun-Mei Wang Wilborn |
Aranzazu Granrose | Hugo Nuñez | James Wells |
Carolina Gutierez | Olga Okhapkina | Michael Woo |
Lynora Hirata | Casey Peplow | Antoinette Wynne |
Larysa House |
Meeting 6 DSHS Support Staff
Benjamin Lee, Zoom Host |
---|
Anita Maguire, Main Room Facilitator |
Malia Wallace-Mello, Project Manager |
WELCOME AND AGENDA REVIEW
The Main Room Facilitator introduced herself and the Zoom Host. She then gave a quick recap of the agenda.
COMMUNITY AGREEMENTS
The Main Room Facilitator held space for self-review of the Community Agreements established during the first meeting:
- Respect each other in action and speech.
- Stay present.
- Listen with an open mind.
- Arrive prepared and ready to engage.
- Consider your thoughts before speaking.
- Honesty in all communication.
- Contribute from your lived experience.
- Clarify to avoid assumptions.
- Plain speak as much as possible.
- Avoid acronyms and complications.
- Ask questions out of curiosity.
- Use specific and, whenever possible, share brief examples for clarity.
- Be open to different cultural and linguistic modes of expression.
- Respectful disagreement is ok.
Participants were thanked for accepting these agreements and for holding themselves accountable to them as the group works together to develop understanding and propose recommendations.
SHARE PREFERRED OPTIONS AND REASONING FOR PREFERENCES
In preparation for this meeting, participants were asked to review the Draft Options for State of Washington Medical Interpreter Testing and Certification and come prepared to discuss which programs work best for Washington State and to vote on the options by ranking them. Because this was a working document, the draft options ended up getting revised several times before the vote.
On September 19, during Meeting 5 of the work group, Version 1 of the Draft Options document was shared with participants. After receiving participant feedback following that meeting, the working document was updated and a link to Version 2 of the Draft Options was emailed to participants on September 20. Following feedback from state agencies, the document was again updated, and a link to Version 3 was emailed to participants on September 22. It was this version that was generally commented on during Meeting 6. (Following participant feedback during Meeting 6, the document was updated again. Version 4 of the options is what participants used to vote on.)
During the meeting, each participant was given the opportunity to share their preferred options and reasoning for their preferences with the entire group. Some participants chose to pass when their name was called. Others shared their opinion on a range of topics, including the options and the process.
The following table shows the status, response, and/or comments from each participant:
Full Name |
Status/Response/Comments |
---|---|
Fatma Abdinasir |
Absent |
Farhiyo Ahmed |
Absent |
Anita Ahumada |
Absent |
Angela Araque |
Absent |
Gabrielle Bachmeier |
Absent |
Liz Baxter |
Absent |
Lorna Bien |
Absent |
Tara Bostock |
Pass – To share time for other participants; raising awareness and certification for indigenous languages “What will replace the ‘blanks’ or ‘No’s’ in the table, i.e. under Test Prep Training?” |
DSHS; Ruiqin Miao, PhD |
Dr. Ruiqin Miao of DSHS response to Tara: “Thank you for raising this question. As we know this work group is only several months and we have to submit a report based on that timeline. These options are a very general vision. These are specific details to consider further, once the Legislature will select the general options that serve Washington State best.” |
Milena Calderari-Waldron |
Pass – To reach consensus with Interpreters United (WFSE) Interpreter’s United (Labor Union) “I want to understand that the process of voting is correct. DSHS solicited draft recommendations from the work group participants, posted on the website, and in parallel, DSHS drafted it’s own recommendations. Is this correct?” |
DSHS; Ruiqin Miao, PhD |
Dr. Ruiqin Miao of DSHS response to Milena: “Thank you for Union’s input and suggested recommendations, that we received yesterday, that this was too late to incorporate into the Options Table posed on the website for today. The Union’s input will certainly be included in the report to the Legislature.” |
Gwendolyn Cash-James, EdD |
Absent |
Vicky Chan |
Option 1 – Convenient certifying body for interpreter certification with focus on test and certify |
Faye Chien |
Pass |
Carolyn Cole, Esq. |
Absent |
Nadia Damchii |
Absent |
Jessie DeWoody |
Absent |
Helen Eby |
Pass – Stated a need to reach consensus with fellow Interpreters United (WFSE) members. Addressed that the option for DSHS to continue medical interpreter testing was missing from the options table. |
Rep. Carolyn Eslick |
Pass |
Rep. Darya Farivar |
Pass |
Marguerite Friedlander, Esq. |
Absent |
Sherri Fujita |
Absent |
JoAnna Gaffney |
Absent |
Zugey García |
Option 2 – L&I for partnerships. Requested clarification regarding the timeline for the report and tally of poll results. The Project Manager confirmed the timeline and the process. |
Jon Gould |
Absent |
Luisa Gracia |
Pass - Addressed that the option for DSHS to continue medical interpreter testing was missing from the options table. |
Aranzazu Granrose |
Pass |
Tony Griego |
Absent |
Carolina Gutierrez |
Pass |
Lynora Hirata |
Option 5 – To confer with team |
Larysa House |
Pass – To confer with team/colleagues |
Carrie Huie-Pascua |
Pass – To confer with team/colleagues |
Agata Ianturina |
Absent |
Jarrod Irvin |
Option 4 – Support and to confer with the team |
Teddy Kemirembe |
Absent |
Cristina Labra |
Option 5 – Most comprehensive, though unrealistic while most ideal. Option 1 – Most realistic, but not ideal. Pass – To confer with team |
Trisha Lamb |
Option 2 – L&I partnerships |
Shelby Lambdin |
Absent |
Elena Langdon |
Absent |
Emily Lardner, EdD |
Absent |
KaraLynn, PhD |
Absent |
Eliana Lobo |
Pass – Abstain on basis of consensus not reached. Open to working with community colleges “Personally, I would recommend Option 1 that include partnering with community colleges. Considering partnering, would work with one class through multiple college venues, simultaneously online. To qualify and justify the courses, needing a cross platform solution to maintain seats and the class. |
Ruiqin Miao, PhD |
Pass – To confer with DSHS Team Throughout the discussion, Dr. Miao replied to participants’ comments. Please see her replies to comments throughout this table. Additionally, when she was called on to provide input on the options, Dr. Miao took some time to address questions from participants. Dr. Miao stated that she would pass on sharing her opinions for the options, but shared her primary position that a solution generally be based on a system of testing that is efficient, sustainable, and has quality tests (well developed, reliable, and approved) through national third-party providers and community colleges.
In response to an observation that the recommendation to the legislature should include the option for DSHS to restart its medical interpreter testing program, Dr. Miao said that using medical interpreter testing is neither sustainable nor efficient. Certifying interpreters with seriously outdated, 30-year-old tests would not result in being confident of the quality. If DSHS continues with manual testing, there would be a long wait for a spot. There are well established professional entities that maintain and update, through both online and remote testing systems, that can do this. In-person testing is not efficient. According to the fiscal note from Senate Bill 5304, it costs the state a lot of money to redevelop valid and reliable medical interpreter tests for the whole state. Whether through community colleges or third-party providers, if we can ensure that the testing system is convenient for candidates, to address the increasing needs of the State, it will be a good goal for Washington State. |
Leroy Mould |
Pass |
Natalya Mytareva |
Abstain. Option 1 – Representing CCHI; an efficient pathway to assess competency of interpreters regardless of training. Option 4 – Connecting with partners to create CE training |
Fidelie Nawaj |
Absent |
Gustavo Negrete |
Abstain – Representing NBCMI |
Hugo Nuñez |
Option 2 |
Olga Okhapkina |
Option 1 – Need opportunities for partnership |
Casey Peplow |
Pass |
Lauren Platt |
Absent |
Christina Pourarien |
Absent |
Theresa Powell |
Absent |
Jennifer Price |
Pass |
Joana Ramos |
Pass – Representing WASCLA; to recommend interim solutions and convey observations |
Cindy Roat |
Option 1 – Caveat; Option 1.5+ “I am concerned about the difference between people who are getting certified now and those who are trying to maintain their certification. Some options may work really well for one, but not address the other. I want to make sure the Legislature take this into account. What would you recommend, when ranking these options and should I include in my comments?” |
DSHS; Ruiqin Miao, PhD |
Dr. Miao of DSHS response to Cindy: “To maintain DSHS certification – These options are for testing to certify going forward, with currently certified interpreters in the State. No matter what Washington State decides, DSHS will ensure a smooth transition of data to a new testing entity or if DSHS continues to maintain the roster in Gateway.” |
Glorivette Rodriguez |
Absent |
Elsie Rodriguez Paz |
Option 1 – Option 1.5+ Resume testing that qualify interpreters to provide patient care and involve community colleges that is sustainable. Option 5 – Ideal but unrealistic, a system that involves Community Colleges |
John Rogers |
Absent |
Zenaida ‘Z’ Rojas |
Option 2 – Diversity of CC’s. Authentically communicating cultural humility and quality of interpretation |
Matteo Rutherford |
Absent |
Elena Safaraints |
Absent |
Sen. Rebecca Saldaña |
Absent |
Roy Salonga |
Absent |
Manny Santiago |
Absent |
María Sigüenza |
Option – Noted that an ideally, testing is pulled out of DSHS and housed in a state centralized office. Testing to be more democratic with greater needs, in its own entity. She took issue with not including DSHS to continue medical interpreter testing in the options table and suggested a minority report be included. |
Yvonne Simpson |
Pass – Stating a position of support for national certification. Made a note of concern for how current DSHS certification and certified interpreters might be lost in the transfer to third-party entities and not be able to maintain their certification. She held that separating community colleges as only being the training party and not conducting the testing, is appropriate She addressed that Option 5 and the focus of this work group has only been on medical interpreting. |
Radu Smintina |
Absent |
Quan Trần |
Absent |
Rokiah Vansot |
Absent |
Elena Vasiliev |
Pass |
Daniel(le) Vasquez |
Absent |
Cathy Vue |
Absent |
Yun-Mei Wang Wilborn |
Option 2 & Option 5 – Focus on continuing education from DSHS. Highlighted need on medical terminology |
James Wells |
Pass – Interim vs long-term solutions. State needs to invest heavily into language access and coordinate around training |
Michael Woo |
Pass |
Antoinette Wynne |
Option 2 & Option 4 – To include expectations of LTC and authorize interpreters to be trained through accredited programs, similar to CC. Option 1 – May not be viable. DES contracts are for eligible entities. She stated that Option 1 would require purchasers to be the individual/independent interpreters themselves, with contractors and this changes authority around statewide contract use. Testing and services delivered from the contractors under this option may constitute a potential conflict of interest. Keeping everything separate, testing the interpreters and providing the service from statewide contracts. All interpreters used by DES are asked to meet skills of industry standards and to be in the expectation of the DSHS Language and Testing Certification program, along with training at higher education institutes. Approving the extension of Option 2 or Option 4. Need to define what a statewide contract. |
Sandy Yang |
Absent |
Grace Yoo |
Absent |
REVIEW CONTENT FOR THE FINAL REPORT AND NEXT STEPS
The Project Manager shared her screen to show the poll that participants would use to rank the options. She explained how to fill out the poll. She also showed where on the Language Access Work Group website people could find the poll results, which would be posted no later than 5:00pm on Friday, October 6.
Considering that Antoinette Wynne of DES raised a concern that Option 1 may not be viable, participants asked if the Options table would be updated for the poll. Some participants continued to state their preference that the option for DSHS to resume testing be added to the vote. Dr. Miao noted that if the legislature wanted DSHS to continue medical interpreter testing, then Senate Bill 5304 would have passed. That option is not viable, so Substitute Senate Bill 5304 was created. SSB5304 mandated DSHS to convene a work group to find other viable options. Dr. Miao announced that if the options table were to be revised, the updated version would be shared with participants by 2:00pm the same day (Tuesday, October 3, 2023).
The Project Manager then showed the Proposed Process Timeline and shared the basic content of the final report.
CONCLUSION
Participants were encouraged to contact the Project Manager, Malia Wallace-Mello, if they have any questions.
Everyone was thanked.